When I spoke to Lisa, who is in the Netherlands, and she told me her best friend was convinced she had reptilian DNA, I was reminded of the case of Matthew Coleman, who killed his two small children because he thought they were of reptilian descent.
What could make a proud father with a dream life running a surf school in Southern California believe that his kids had reptilian DNA and needed to die? QAnon of course.
In this week's episode of the Q-Dropped Podcast, I could hear the concern in Lisa's voice as she spoke of her best friend in the world and how she has lost her to QAnon.
We also posted a second episode for patrons only here. In it, we speak to Robert, who is going through a divorce from the mother of his children as she descends down the QAnon rabbit hole.
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I haven’t yet listened to the podcast, but I have a thought or two about it anyway. I really have to wonder about how closely attached to what the rest of us might call reality is someone who thinks that she is in possession of reptilian DNA. It’s far beyond mere ignorance. In fact, I think it’s far beyond stupidity, and that is saying something, especially if this person is functional.
I have written about this before. I don’t think the explanation is psychological, though she might simply be crazy. I think the answer is more sociological, and the answer is tribalism. My tribe is good, your tribe is not. My tribe is special, your tribe is not. Whatever I do or say or think is important, because my tribe it is important. This kind of thinking is reinforced within the tribe, and the tribe is all that is important to the individual who is so alienated from the rest of society that tribal thinking substitutes for engagement with fact, logic, and experience.
I had an interesting conversation the other day with an antivaxxer. It was a very typical conversation with an anti-VAX, so I won’t go into all of the details, but it was very clear – and I told her so — that her decision was political and tribal, not medical and scientific. I pointed out that there was science and 250 years of sound public health policy behind the vaccines for Covid. I also had a conversation with a very relentlessly anti-trans gentleman. He basically told me he didn’t care what the experts on the subject said. All that mattered to him was what he thought about it, and I was clearly deluded if I believed anything different than what he believed. I am sure that many of the people who watch moms podcasts have had very similar conversations with highly religious people.
facts, logic, and experience are not going to penetrate into that mindset…
any more than facts, logic, and experience are going to penetrate into the mind of someone who believes that she has reptilian DNA.
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But you're not completely tribal, as you obviously have ignored science as it's been bitch-slapping you for months? Got it.
I have absolutely zero idea whom you’re talking to and/or what you might be trying to say.
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You and me both.
But you're not completely tribal, as you obviously have ignored science as it's been bitch-slapping you for months? Got it.
I agree. Having two anti-vax parents has made it clear, there's nothing anyone can say. We have lost a shared reality. it's just a sad state of affairs.
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